{"id":345,"date":"2018-05-10T14:28:11","date_gmt":"2018-05-10T14:28:11","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/?page_id=345"},"modified":"2018-08-31T21:33:10","modified_gmt":"2018-08-31T21:33:10","slug":"alfred-henry-lytle-2","status":"publish","type":"page","link":"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/?page_id=345","title":{"rendered":"Alfred Henry Lytle"},"content":{"rendered":"<h1><strong>Alfred<\/strong> <strong>Henry<\/strong> <strong>Lytle&nbsp; (1873<\/strong> <strong>\u2013<\/strong> <strong>1943)<\/strong><\/h1>\n<p>Alfred was born on the 16th&nbsp;June 1873, at 101 Ashfield Street, Everton, Liverpool, two years before his mother died. I have his birth certificate,&nbsp; which states that his father was John Lytle Jr, a \u2018cart owner\u2019, and his mother was Alice Lytle, nee Taylor.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>The<\/em> <em>uncles<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>aunts<\/em> <em>who<\/em> <em>had<\/em> <em>brought<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>L<\/em><em>ytle<\/em> <em>brothers<\/em> <em>up<\/em> <em>were<\/em> <em>separate<\/em> <em>couples,<\/em> <em>who<\/em> <em>it<\/em> <em>seemed,<\/em> <em>never<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>have<\/em> <em>communicated<\/em> <em>with<\/em> <em>each<\/em> <em>other,<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>who,<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>course,<\/em> <em>may<\/em> <em>not<\/em> <em>have<\/em> <em>been<\/em> <em>Lytle<\/em> <em>uncles.<\/em> <em>Indeed<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>Father\u2019s<\/em> <em>couple<\/em> <em>were<\/em> <em>Mr<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>Mrs<\/em> <em>Scantlebury:<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>believed<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>Aunt<\/em> <em>who<\/em> <em>brought<\/em> <em>him<\/em> <em>up,<\/em> <em>Margaret,<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>second<\/em> <em>wife,<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>Lytle<\/em> <em>relation.<\/em> <em>She<\/em> <em>conceived<\/em> <em>many<\/em> <em>times<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>all<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>babies<\/em> <em>died<\/em> <em>at<\/em> <em>birth,<\/em> <em>or<\/em> <em>when<\/em> <em>young,<\/em> <em>so<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>Father<\/em> <em>had<\/em> <em>no<\/em> <em>young<\/em> <em>companions.<\/em> <em>Hence,<\/em> <em>meeting<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>young<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>lively<\/em> <em>Cordon<\/em> <em>family<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>exhilarating<\/em> <em>later,<\/em> <em>when<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>fell<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>love<\/em> <em>with<\/em> <em>Mama<\/em> <em>(who<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>their<\/em> <em>niece).<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>We now know, from the Census reports, that Ruth did not remember her father\u2019s story correctly. Alfred had been living with an uncle, William Lytle (brother of John Jr), and his wife Jane, plus their daughters, Jessie and Margaret, probably from when he was orphaned until about the age of 12, when he would have left school. At the age of 7 he appears on the Census along with his Lytle uncle and aunt, who were actually living just around the corner from the Scantleburys.<\/p>\n<p>The 1881 Census shows the following living at 29 Burleigh Road, Everton:<\/p>\n\n<table id=\"tablepress-2\" class=\"tablepress tablepress-id-2\">\n<thead>\n<tr class=\"row-1\">\n\t<th class=\"column-1\">Name<\/th><th class=\"column-2\">Age<\/th><th class=\"column-3\">Born<\/th><th class=\"column-4\">Relationship to Head<\/th><th class=\"column-5\">Occupation<\/th>\n<\/tr>\n<\/thead>\n<tbody class=\"row-hover\">\n<tr class=\"row-2\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\">William Lytle<\/td><td class=\"column-2\">46<\/td><td class=\"column-3\">1835<\/td><td class=\"column-4\">head<\/td><td class=\"column-5\">master porter<\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-3\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\">Jane A.<\/td><td class=\"column-2\">37<\/td><td class=\"column-3\">1844<\/td><td class=\"column-4\">wife<\/td><td class=\"column-5\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-4\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\">Jessie E.<\/td><td class=\"column-2\">15<\/td><td class=\"column-3\">1866<\/td><td class=\"column-4\">daughter<\/td><td class=\"column-5\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-5\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\">Margaret<\/td><td class=\"column-2\">13<\/td><td class=\"column-3\">1868<\/td><td class=\"column-4\">daughter<\/td><td class=\"column-5\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<tr class=\"row-6\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\">Alfred H.<\/td><td class=\"column-2\">7<\/td><td class=\"column-3\">1873<\/td><td class=\"column-4\">nephew<\/td><td class=\"column-5\"><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<!-- #tablepress-2 from cache -->\n<p>In the 19th&nbsp;Century,&nbsp; Burleigh Road comprised modest two storey terraced houses in brick. It was at right angles to Robson Street where the Scantleburys lived, so the families were certainly aware of each other, even if they were not friendly, and Alfred would have known his brothers were round the corner.<\/p>\n<p>The Census details tie up with what Ruth told me: that Alfred\u2019s uncle was employed by a shipping line, organising fruit cargoes. In subsequent Censuses he is listed as \u2018foreman porter\u2019 and \u2018freight clerk\u2019. Ruth mistakenly ran the two uncles together, possibly because of their connection in the greengrocery business.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Thi<\/em><em>s<\/em> <em>horri<\/em><em>d<\/em> <em>U<\/em><em>nc<\/em><em>l<\/em><em>e<\/em> <em>S<\/em><em>c<\/em><em>a<\/em><em>ntle<\/em><em>b<\/em><em>ur<\/em><em>y<\/em> <em>(<\/em>Our note: actually Uncle William Lytle<em>)<\/em> <em>always<\/em> <em>called<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>Father<\/em> <em>\u2018Boy\u2019and<\/em> <em>used<\/em> <em>him<\/em> <em>as<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>telegraph<\/em> <em>messenger<\/em> <em>from<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>house<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>docks,<\/em> <em>where<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>worked<\/em> <em>for<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>White<\/em> <em>Star<\/em> <em>Company<\/em> <em>(later<\/em> <em>Cunard),<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>1870\u2019s.<\/em> <em>Poor<\/em> <em>Daddy<\/em> <em>missed<\/em> <em>school<\/em> <em>often<\/em> <em>when<\/em> <em>Uncle<\/em> <em>wanted<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>telegrams<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>hurry.<\/em> <em>The<\/em> <em>distance<\/em> <em>from<\/em> <em>home<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>dock<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>several<\/em> <em>miles<\/em> <em>so<\/em> <em>when<\/em> <em>Daddy<\/em> <em>asked<\/em> <em>for<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>tram<\/em> <em>fare<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>take<\/em> <em>him<\/em> <em>home,<\/em> <em>Uncle<\/em> <em>would<\/em> <em>refuse<\/em> <em>this,<\/em> <em>but<\/em> <em>allow<\/em> <em>Daddy<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>help<\/em> <em>himself<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>fruit,<\/em> <em>dried<\/em> <em>fruits,<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>other<\/em> <em>eatable<\/em> <em>cargo<\/em> <em>waiting<\/em> <em>on<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>docks<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>open<\/em> <em>sacks,<\/em> <em>waiting<\/em> <em>for<\/em> <em>an<\/em> <em>auctioneer<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>open<\/em> <em>an<\/em> <em>auction.<\/em> <em>A<\/em> <em>strange<\/em> <em>taste<\/em> <em>developed,<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>Daddy<\/em> <em>disliked<\/em> <em>tomatoes<\/em> <em>for<\/em> <em>ever,<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>fruit<\/em> <em>just<\/em> <em>being<\/em> <em>imported<\/em> <em>during<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>1880\u2019s,<\/em> <em>but<\/em> <em>took<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>bananas,<\/em> <em>raisins,<\/em> <em>Demerara,<\/em> <em>dates,<\/em> <em>figs<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>nuts<\/em> <em>\u2013<\/em> <em>pocketing<\/em> <em>handfuls<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>these<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>sustain<\/em> <em>him<\/em> <em>on<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>journey<\/em> <em>home.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Onc<\/em><em>e<\/em> <em>h<\/em><em>e<\/em> <em>w<\/em><em>e<\/em><em>n<\/em><em>t<\/em> <em>t<\/em><em>o<\/em> <em>anoth<\/em><em>e<\/em><em>r<\/em> <em>Uncl<\/em><em>e<\/em> <em>a<\/em><em>n<\/em><em>d<\/em> <em>j<\/em><em>o<\/em><em>ine<\/em><em>d<\/em> <em>o<\/em><em>n<\/em><em>e<\/em> <em>o<\/em><em>f<\/em> <em>hi<\/em><em>s<\/em> <em>b<\/em><em>rot<\/em><em>h<\/em><em>er<\/em><em>s<\/em> <em>b<\/em><em>ri<\/em><em>e<\/em><em>f<\/em><em>l<\/em><em>y<\/em> <em>i<\/em><em>n<\/em> <em>t<\/em><em>he<\/em><em>i<\/em><em>r<\/em> <em>house<\/em><em>,<\/em> <em>probably<\/em> <em>during<\/em> <em>one<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>Margaret\u2019s<\/em> <em>sad<\/em> <em>births.<\/em> <em>But<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>soon<\/em> <em>back<\/em> <em>for<\/em> <em>no<\/em> <em>one<\/em> <em>wanted<\/em> <em>another<\/em> <em>boy<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>feed.<\/em> <em>The<\/em> <em>strange<\/em> <em>part<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>all<\/em> <em>these<\/em> <em>boyhoods<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>that<\/em> <em>school<\/em> <em>wasn\u2019t<\/em> <em>compulsory<\/em> <em>until<\/em> <em>1870<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>they<\/em> <em>all<\/em> <em>seemed<\/em> <em>educated<\/em> <em>until<\/em> <em>13<\/em> <em>years,<\/em> <em>but<\/em> <em>Daddy<\/em> <em>when<\/em> <em>I<\/em> <em>knew<\/em> <em>him,<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>steeped<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>English<\/em> <em>literature,<\/em> <em>wrote<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>beautiful<\/em> <em>prose,<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>penmanship<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>fine<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>full<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>character:<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>loved<\/em> <em>Canaletto,<\/em> <em>Claude,<\/em> <em>Rembrandt,<\/em> <em>Wright<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>Derby,<\/em> <em>Turner,<\/em> <em>Dante,<\/em> <em>Byron,<\/em> <em>Dickens,<\/em> <em>Mrs<\/em> <em>Beecher<\/em> <em>Stowe<\/em> <em>When<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>read<\/em> <em>this<\/em> <em>latter<\/em> <em>aloud<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>me,<\/em> <em>it<\/em> <em>made<\/em> <em>us<\/em> <em>both<\/em> <em>cry.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>We think that as soon as Alfred left school at 12, he went to live with his Lytle Aunt Margaret and Uncle Scantlebury, so that he could work in their greengrocery shop at 71 Robson Street. The 1891 Census lists Alfred, aged 17 as living there, as \u2018a greengrocer\u2019s shop assistant\u2019.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>He<\/em> <em>developed<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>pleasing<\/em> <em>tenor<\/em> <em>voice<\/em> <em>after<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>boy\u2019s<\/em> <em>voice<\/em> <em>broke,<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>invited<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>join<\/em> <em>St<\/em> <em>George\u2019s<\/em> <em>Hall<\/em> <em>choir.<\/em> <em>His<\/em> <em>Aunt<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>Church<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>England<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>so<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>taken<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>Church<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>joined<\/em> <em>all<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>activities,<\/em> <em>but<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>Uncle<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>hard<\/em> <em>drinking<\/em> <em>man<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>spendthrift,<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>obviously<\/em> <em>left<\/em> <em>Aunt<\/em> <em>Margaret<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>Alfred<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>their<\/em> <em>own<\/em> <em>devices.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>It is obvious that Aunt Margaret was an exceptional woman. She poured her motherly attentions onto Alfred, when she was unable to have any of her own children. She herself was the daughter of a cotton porter, and was born before compulsory education. She had been a housekeeper to her widowed father and her brothers, and then married in her thirties. She must have educated herself somehow, because she was able to pass on her talents to her nephew. She took him to Church which gave him a faith for life, encouraged his singing, and piano playing, his writing skills, and his love of the classics in both books and music. Perhaps she also encouraged him to attend adult education classes. All this time, she was working with her husband in the greengrocer\u2019s shop. From his later career, it appears that Alfred he did not lack an education, even though he had left formal learning at about 12.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Aunt<\/em> <em>Margaret<\/em> <em>had<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>fruit<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>vegetable<\/em> <em>shop<\/em> <em>some<\/em> <em>time<\/em> <em>during<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>years<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>Father\u2019s<\/em> <em>youth<\/em> <em>when<\/em> <em>Uncle<\/em> <em>probably<\/em> <em>didn\u2019t<\/em> <em>provide<\/em> <em>enough<\/em> <em>money.<\/em> <em>I<\/em> <em>think<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>Father<\/em> <em>bought<\/em> <em>fresh<\/em> <em>veg<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>fruit<\/em> <em>on<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>docks<\/em> <em>for<\/em> <em>this<\/em> <em>shop.<\/em> <em>His<\/em> <em>boyhood<\/em> <em>on<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>docks<\/em> <em>had<\/em> <em>given<\/em> <em>him<\/em> <em>useful<\/em> <em>tips<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>bargain,<\/em> <em>no<\/em> <em>doubt.<\/em> <em>He<\/em> <em>learned<\/em> <em>for<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>while<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>organ<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>later<\/em> <em>bought<\/em> <em>one<\/em> <em>for<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>room,<\/em> <em>but<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>Mother<\/em> <em>made<\/em> <em>him<\/em> <em>sell<\/em> <em>it<\/em> <em>when<\/em> <em>I<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>about<\/em> <em>4<\/em> <em>years<\/em> <em>old<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>we<\/em> <em>were<\/em> <em>moving<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>Hull.<\/em> <em>Indeed<\/em> <em>several<\/em> <em>pieces<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>own<\/em> <em>were<\/em> <em>sold.<\/em> <em>My<\/em> <em>Mother<\/em> <em>found<\/em> <em>none<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>pieces<\/em> <em>fitted<\/em> <em>their<\/em> <em>new<\/em> <em>homes.<\/em> <em>The<\/em> <em>exception<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>an<\/em> <em>oak<\/em> <em>gate-legged<\/em> <em>table<\/em> <em>still<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>use,<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>now<\/em> <em>over<\/em> <em>90<\/em> <em>years<\/em> <em>old.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Aunt<\/em> <em>Margaret<\/em> <em>must<\/em> <em>have<\/em> <em>influenced<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>Father\u2019s<\/em> <em>calm,<\/em> <em>well<\/em> <em>balanced<\/em> <em>nature,<\/em> <em>for<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>tastes,<\/em> <em>ability<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>thrive,<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>make<\/em> <em>friends,<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>preach<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>Gospel<\/em> <em>as<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>Singing<\/em> <em>Evangelist,<\/em> <em>wherever<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>lived,<\/em> <em>inferred<\/em> <em>someone<\/em> <em>had<\/em> <em>brought<\/em> <em>him<\/em> <em>up<\/em> <em>beautifully<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>healthily.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Some<\/em> <em>years<\/em> <em>after<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>marriage,<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>Father<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>walking<\/em> <em>over<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>railway<\/em> <em>bridge<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>Rochdale<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>met<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>old<\/em> <em>wicked<\/em> <em>Uncle,<\/em> <em>who<\/em> <em>recognised<\/em> <em>him<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>whiningly<\/em> <em>asked<\/em> <em>for<\/em> <em>money.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>William Lytle died in 1906 aged 73 in West Derby, Lancs. The other uncle, Benjamin Scantlebury died in Burnley, Lancs. in 1912, aged 78, so this is the likely uncle.<\/p>\n\n<table id=\"tablepress-8\" class=\"tablepress tablepress-id-8\">\n<tbody>\n<tr class=\"row-1\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\"><figure id=\"attachment_215\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-215\" style=\"width: 350px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo030.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo030.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"400\" class=\"size-full wp-image-215\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo030.jpg 350w, https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo030-263x300.jpg 263w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-215\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alfred 1900<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/td><td class=\"column-2\"><figure id=\"attachment_216\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-216\" style=\"width: 350px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo031.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo031.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"400\" class=\"size-full wp-image-216\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo031.jpg 350w, https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo031-263x300.jpg 263w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-216\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alfred 1910<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<!-- #tablepress-8 from cache -->\n<p>Alfred married Mary Busfield in 1903.&nbsp; Ruth told me in great detail about the professional life of her Father. He had given up the greengrocer\u2019s shop at around the time of his marriage to Mary, or just before, at the age of 31, and had a couple of very successful salesman\u2019s posts: one for a soda fountain company and one for the National Cash Register Company. Ruth says Alfred and Mary moved to several towns during this time, including Hull and Leeds. In the 1911 Census, his occupation is listed as \u2018commercial traveller, machinery\u2019.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>My<\/em> <em>father<\/em> <em>rarely<\/em> <em>spoke<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>early<\/em> <em>life,<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>our<\/em> <em>life<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>comfort<\/em> <em>with<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>Mama<\/em> <em>soothing<\/em> <em>us<\/em> <em>into<\/em> <em>imagining<\/em> <em>all<\/em> <em>families<\/em> <em>were<\/em> <em>similar<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>ours.<\/em> <em>Two<\/em> <em>World<\/em> <em>Wars<\/em> <em>practically<\/em> <em>ruined<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>father.<\/em> <em>By<\/em> <em>1916<\/em> <em>\u2013<\/em> <em>17<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>due<\/em> <em>for<\/em> <em>call<\/em> <em>up,<\/em> <em>but<\/em> <em>as<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>40\u2019s<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>assigned<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>A.P.C.<\/em> <em>(Army<\/em> <em>Pay<\/em> <em>Corp)<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>stayed<\/em> <em>there<\/em> <em>until<\/em> <em>Armistice<\/em> <em>Day,<\/em> <em>when<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>dismissed<\/em> <em>himself.<\/em> <em>He<\/em> <em>just<\/em> <em>demobbed<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>no<\/em> <em>army<\/em> <em>procedure<\/em> <em>seemed<\/em> <em>able<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>make<\/em> <em>him<\/em> <em>conform<\/em> <em>after<\/em> <em>November<\/em> <em>11<\/em><em>th<\/em>&nbsp;<em>1918.<\/em> <em>During<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>time<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>A.P.C.<\/em> <em>he<\/em> <em>had<\/em> <em>received<\/em> <em>\u00a31.15\/-<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>week.<\/em> <em>This<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>sum<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>life<\/em> <em>assurance,<\/em> <em>so<\/em> <em>obviously<\/em> <em>we<\/em> <em>must<\/em> <em>have<\/em> <em>lived<\/em> <em>on<\/em> <em>capital,<\/em> <em>as<\/em> <em>I<\/em> <em>do<\/em> <em>not<\/em> <em>remember<\/em> <em>we<\/em> <em>changed<\/em> <em>our<\/em> <em>way<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>life<\/em> <em>except<\/em> <em>that<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>Napier<\/em> <em>car<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>Mr<\/em> <em>Mince,<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>driver,<\/em> <em>were<\/em> <em>taken<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>France<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>take&nbsp;<\/em><em>the<\/em> <em>Generals<\/em> <em>behind<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>front<\/em> <em>line<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>visit<\/em> <em>their<\/em> <em>brigades.<\/em> <em>We<\/em> <em>walked<\/em> <em>or<\/em> <em>went<\/em> <em>by<\/em> <em>train<\/em> <em>everywhere.<\/em> <em>Motor<\/em> <em>open-topped<\/em> <em>double<\/em> <em>decker<\/em> <em>buses<\/em> <em>were<\/em> <em>also<\/em> <em>taken<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>war<\/em> <em>front.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_217\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-217\" style=\"width: 350px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo032.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"350\" height=\"460\" class=\"wp-image-217\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo032.png\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo032.png 372w, https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo032-228x300.png 228w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-217\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Rodney and Ruth with nurse 1913<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>In 1913, Mary gave birth to Rodney and in 1916 to Dalmain (since called Alexander by this family). At some time during, or after, the War, they had moved to Nottingham. Before the War, Alfred had become an agent for the Sun Life Insurance Company of Canada, and was very successful. He was chauffeured around the Northern towns, selling life assurance: firstly by Mr Mince, in a Napier, and from 1925 by Ruth, who held the job for about 8 or 9 years in a Chrysler Sedan, introduced into Britain from the U.S. in 1924.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_219\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-219\" style=\"width: 350px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo034.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"350\" height=\"180\" class=\"size-full wp-image-219\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo034.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo034.jpg 350w, https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo034-300x154.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-219\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">1924 Chrysler<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<figure id=\"attachment_218\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-218\" style=\"width: 350px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo033.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"350\" height=\"200\" class=\"size-full wp-image-218\" alt=\"\" src=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo033.jpg\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo033.jpg 350w, https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo033-300x171.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-218\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Mary with her three children and Nanny Bournemouth circa 1920<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p><span style=\"font-size: 1rem;\">i still have some of the silver boxes, spoons and cigarette cases that he was given as \u2018Salesman of the Year\u2019 by Sun Life. His pleasure was to buy&nbsp;<\/span>antiques for the house he had bought, \u2018Hawksworth Manor\u2019 24 Dovedale Road in Edwalton, Nottingham. This was a large house built in the early 1920s, as part of a small estate, with a big garden and room for the maid and cook in the attic. Mary had a rose garden planted.<\/p>\n\n<table id=\"tablepress-7\" class=\"tablepress tablepress-id-7\">\n<tbody>\n<tr class=\"row-1\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\"><figure id=\"attachment_220\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-220\" style=\"width: 350px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo035.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo035.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"350\" class=\"size-full wp-image-220\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo035.jpg 350w, https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo035-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo035-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo035-100x100.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-220\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Hawkesworth Manor<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/td><td class=\"column-2\"><figure id=\"attachment_221\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-221\" style=\"width: 350px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo036.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo036.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"350\" height=\"350\" class=\"size-full wp-image-221\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo036.jpg 350w, https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo036-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo036-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo036-100x100.jpg 100w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 350px) 100vw, 350px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-221\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alfred's Chrysler - 100,000 miles not out<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<!-- #tablepress-7 from cache -->\n<p>When Ruth chauffeured Alfred around Britain in the Chrysler, she would pop into art galleries and clothes shops while he was doing business, and then drive him home again. Even in her 90\u2019s Ruth could reel off the roads she had driven. When they first began going to London, her brothers were still children, and they&nbsp;made a pre-Christmas trip to Gamages in Holborn for toys. On other occasions, the back seat was sometimes full of Chinese vases, oil paintings, and pieces of nice furniture. Mary had to find somewhere to put them. She was often exasperated, according to Ruth \u2013 \u201cNot more things to find a home for, Alfred!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Some of these nice pieces were taken with Mary when she was widowed and moved to her bed sit in Bournemouth, and then were divided up among her children when she died. Rodney put his into his antique shop and sold them, Dalmain emigrated and declined any keepsakes, and Ruth got a few bits of furniture, the family silver and 2 sets of tea sets, plus books and linen. I have them still.<\/p>\n\n<table id=\"tablepress-9\" class=\"tablepress tablepress-id-9\">\n<tbody>\n<tr class=\"row-1\">\n\t<td class=\"column-1\"><figure id=\"attachment_222\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-222\" style=\"width: 343px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo037.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo037.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"343\" height=\"506\" class=\"size-full wp-image-222\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo037.png 343w, https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo037-203x300.png 203w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 343px) 100vw, 343px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-222\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alfred without mousetache<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/td><td class=\"column-2\"><figure id=\"attachment_223\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-223\" style=\"width: 290px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo038.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" src=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo038.png\" alt=\"\" width=\"290\" height=\"506\" class=\"size-full wp-image-223\" srcset=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo038.png 290w, https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/05\/photo038-172x300.png 172w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 290px) 100vw, 290px\" \/><\/a><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-223\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Alfred and Mary in Paignton circa 1937<\/figcaption><\/figure><\/td>\n<\/tr>\n<\/tbody>\n<\/table>\n<!-- #tablepress-9 from cache -->\n<p>The 1939 Register lists the family at 24 Dovedale Road, West Bridgford, Nottingham, where Rodney, 26, was living with them. His profession was listed as Fitter Heavy Worker, so he must have&nbsp;already begun work at a Royal Ordinance factory, where he was in a reserved occupation during the War.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>Rather<\/em> <em>before<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>Second<\/em> <em>World<\/em> <em>W<\/em><em>ar<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>Father\u2019s<\/em> <em>insurance<\/em> <em>business<\/em> <em>fell<\/em> <em>off,<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>once<\/em> <em>more<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>Father<\/em> <em>became<\/em> <em>poorer,<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>working<\/em> <em>voluntarily<\/em> <em>for<\/em> <em>Nottingham<\/em> <em>University<\/em> <em>as<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>fire<\/em> <em>watcher<\/em> <em>during<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>War,<\/em> <em>with<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>professors,<\/em> <em>until<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>death<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>1943.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>The two World Wars had been very bad for business, and by the time he died, Alfred had spent his capital. Mary not only lost the house, but had very little pension. No one had wanted to buy their big house during the War. When finally someone made a derisory offer for it of several hundred pounds, his cheque bounced and he gave no address. No inheritance was left to the three children when she died in 1952 \u2013 just the antiques.<\/p>\n<p style=\"padding-left: 30px;\"><span style=\"color: #0000ff;\"><em>On<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>Father\u2019s<\/em> <em>death<\/em> <em>bed,<\/em> <em>I<\/em> <em>got<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>touch<\/em> <em>with<\/em> <em>his<\/em> <em>brother<\/em> <em>Arthur<\/em> <em>(lately<\/em> <em>retired)<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>travel<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>Nottingham<\/em> <em>to<\/em> <em>visit<\/em> <em>him<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>hospital,<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>May<\/em> <em>1943.<\/em> <em>He<\/em> <em>came<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>stayed<\/em> <em>all<\/em> <em>day,<\/em> <em>talking<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>holding<\/em> <em>my<\/em> <em>Father\u2019s<\/em> <em>hand.<\/em> <em>One<\/em> <em>thing<\/em> <em>came<\/em> <em>out,<\/em> <em>Uncle<\/em> <em>Arthur<\/em> <em>had<\/em> <em>found<\/em> <em>out<\/em> <em>that<\/em> <em>their<\/em> <em>Father<\/em> <em>had<\/em> <em>left<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>fortune<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>\u00a330,000<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>stock<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>capital.<\/em> <em>None<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>this<\/em> <em>was<\/em> <em>ever<\/em> <em>used<\/em> <em>on<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>three<\/em> <em>orphans.<\/em> <em>The<\/em> <em>wicked<\/em> <em>Uncle<\/em> <em>had<\/em> <em>claimed<\/em> <em>some<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>kept<\/em> <em>quiet,<\/em> <em>perhaps<\/em> <em>the<\/em> <em>other<\/em> <em>two<\/em> <em>uncles<\/em> <em>also.<\/em> <em>The<\/em> <em>Walls<\/em> <em>at<\/em> <em>Colwyn<\/em> <em>Bay<\/em> <em>during<\/em> <em>dinner<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>November<\/em> <em>1921<\/em> <em>probably<\/em> <em>were<\/em> <em>correct<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>connecting<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>thriving<\/em> <em>business<\/em> <em>with<\/em> <em>theirs.<\/em> <em>As<\/em> <em>a<\/em> <em>teenager<\/em> <em>I<\/em> <em>had<\/em> <em>no<\/em> <em>real<\/em> <em>interest<\/em> <em>in<\/em> <em>surmising,<\/em> <em>and<\/em> <em>neglected<\/em> <em>this<\/em> <em>bit<\/em> <em>of<\/em> <em>information.<\/em><\/span><\/p>\n<p>This large sum seems to have been a fable, as no such sum has been documented. I don\u2019t think they had realised that John Lytle, their father, had been a simple carter, with one horse, living in a tenement in Liverpool.<\/p>\n<h2><strong>Alfred and Mary&#8217;s children<\/strong><\/h2>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><a class=\"fasc-button fasc-size-medium fasc-type-glossy fasc-rounded-medium\" style=\"background-color: #33809e; color: #ffffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/?page_id=341\">Go&nbsp;<\/a>&nbsp;&nbsp;Ruth Winifred<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a class=\"fasc-button fasc-size-medium fasc-type-glossy fasc-rounded-medium\" style=\"background-color: #33809e; color: #ffffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/?page_id=339\">Go<\/a>&nbsp; Rodney&nbsp;Winston&nbsp;Sambrooke<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><strong><a class=\"fasc-button fasc-size-medium fasc-type-glossy fasc-rounded-medium\" style=\"background-color: #33809e; color: #ffffff;\" href=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/?page_id=283\">Go&nbsp;<\/a>&nbsp;&nbsp;Dalmain Alexander<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h5>&nbsp;<\/h5>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Alfred Henry Lytle&nbsp; (1873 \u2013 1943) Alfred was born on the 16th&nbsp;June 1873, at 101 Ashfield Street, Everton, Liverpool, two years before his mother died. I have his birth certificate,&nbsp; which states that his father was John Lytle Jr, a \u2018cart owner\u2019, and his mother was Alice Lytle, nee Taylor. The uncles and aunts who &hellip; <\/p>\n<p class=\"link-more\"><a href=\"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/?page_id=345\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading<span class=\"screen-reader-text\"> &#8220;Alfred Henry Lytle&#8221;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"parent":0,"menu_order":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"closed","template":"","meta":{"_lmt_disableupdate":"no","_lmt_disable":"","footnotes":""},"class_list":["post-345","page","type-page","status-publish","hentry"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/345","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/page"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=345"}],"version-history":[{"count":8,"href":"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/345\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":689,"href":"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/pages\/345\/revisions\/689"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/lytle.org.uk\/wp\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=345"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}